bro gave me a 2nd pc.. what is best

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ok, now possibilities have been rised slightly
i now have 2 pcs to make one with :slight_smile:

im gona post one now swap post other,

any body that could help shed some light on what i shoudl do would be cool :slight_smile:

his pc, is ok but if i try run ‘‘crucial scan’’ pc turns off (after format and before) seems to be a bit dippy in there somewhere
but i thaught maybe i can take ram,prossessor etc… but then… which board is best! lol

new pc from bro

SiSoftware Sandra

Computer
Model : AcerSystem Aspire 8000 XP DDRb
Workgroup : MSHOME
Host Name : porn-81b26f248f
User : deannn

Processor
Model : AMD Athlon™ XP 2000+
Speed : 1.67GHz
Cores per Processor : 1 Unit(s)
Threads per Core : 1 Unit(s)
Integrated Data Cache : 64kB, Synchronous, Write-Back, 2-way, 64 byte line size
L2 On-board Cache : 256kB, ECC, Synchronous, Write-Back, 16-way, 64 byte line size

Computer
Mainboard : KM266-8235
BIOS : Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG 11/26/2002
Bus(es) : ISA X-Bus AGP PCI IMB USB i2c/SMBus
Multi-Processor (MP) Support : No
Multi-Processor Advanced PIC (APIC) : Yes
Total Memory : 1.22GB DDR

Chipset
Model : VIA VT8375 ProSavageDDR PM266/KM266 CPU to PCI Bridge
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 133MHz (266MHz)
Total Memory : 1.25GB DDR
Shared Memory : 32MB
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 133MHz (266MHz)

Memory Module(s)
Memory Module : Samsung M3 68L6423BT1-CB0 256MB DDR PC2100U DDR-133 (2.5-3-3-6 2-0-0-0)
Memory Module : Team Group Team-Value-400 1GB DDR PC3200U DDR-200 (3-4-4-8 2-11-0-0)

Video System
Video Adapter : S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR (Microsoft Corporation) (AGP 2.00)

Peripherals
LPC Hub Controller 1 : VIA VT8235 PCI to ISA Bridge
LPC Legacy Controller 1 : Winbond W83697HF/F/HG
Audio Device : C-Media Electronics CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio Device
Audio Codec : 1 0000h
Audio Codec : Gammagraphx 0000h
Serial Port(s) : 1
Parallel Port(s) : 1
Disk Controller : Biostar Microtech VT82xxxx EIDE Controller (All VIA Chipsets)
USB Controller 1 : Biostar Microtech VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (All VIA Chipsets)
USB Controller 2 : Biostar Microtech VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (All VIA Chipsets)
USB Controller 3 : Biostar Microtech VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (All VIA Chipsets)
USB Controller 4 : Biostar Microtech VT6202/12 USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller
SMBus/i2c Controller 1 : VIA VT823x SMBus

Network Services
Network Adapter : VIA Compatable Fast Ethernet Adapter - Packet Scheduler Miniport
Network Adapter : Realtek RTL8029(AS) PCI Ethernet Adapter - Packet Scheduler Miniport (Ethernet, 10Mbps)

Power Management
Mains (AC) Line Status : On-Line

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aaaand pc 2 (my orgigional)

SiSoftware Sandra

Computer
Model : VIA Technologies, Inc. Aspire T120
Workgroup : MSHOME
Host Name : dual-872be1c9ae
User : Owner

Processor
Model : AMD Athlon™ XP 2600+
Speed : 2GHz
Cores per Processor : 1 Unit(s)
Threads per Core : 1 Unit(s)
Integrated Data Cache : 64kB, Synchronous, Write-Back, 2-way, 64 byte line size
L2 On-board Cache : 256kB, ECC, Synchronous, Write-Back, 16-way, 64 byte line size

Computer
Mainboard : E22M
BIOS : Phoenix Technologies, LTD R01-A1 12/02/2003
Bus(es) : ISA X-Bus AGP PCI IMB USB FireWire/1394 i2c/SMBus
Multi-Processor (MP) Support : No
Multi-Processor Advanced PIC (APIC) : Yes
Total Memory : 512MB DDR

Chipset
Model : ECS KM400 CPU to PCI Bridge
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 166MHz (332MHz)
Total Memory : 512MB DDR
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 166MHz (332MHz)

Memory Module(s)
Memory Module : Kingston K 256MB DDR PC2100U DDR-133 (2.5-3-3-6 2-9-0-0)
Memory Module : Hynix (Hyundai) HYMD132 645A8-H 256MB DDR PC2100U DDR-133 (2.5-3-3-6 2-0-0-0)

Video System
Video Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce 6800 LE (8 PS3.0, 4 VS3.0 299MHz, 128MB DDR 2x702MHz, AGP 3.00)

Graphics Processor

Storage Devices
MAXTOR STM3802110A 80GB (ATA100, 2MB Cache) : 75GB
Maxtor 6L300R0 (300GB, ATA133, 3.5", 7200rpm, 16MB Cache) : 279GB (C:)
HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4480B (ATA33, DVD-R, CD-RW, 2MB Cache) : N/A (D:)

Logical Storage Devices
Hard Disk (C:) : 279GB (NTFS) @ Maxtor 6L300R0 (300GB, ATA133, 3.5", 7200rpm, 16MB Cache)
Optical Drive (D:) : N/A @ HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4480B (ATA33, DVD-R, CD-RW, 2MB Cache)
3.5" 1.44MB (A:) : N/A

Peripherals
LPC Hub Controller 1 : ECS VT8235 PCI to ISA Bridge
LPC Legacy Controller 1 : ITE IT8705F
Audio Device : ECS VT8233/A AC’97 Enhanced Audio Controller
Audio Codec : Gammagraphx 0000h
Audio Codec : Gammagraphx 0000h
Serial Port(s) : 1
Parallel Port(s) : 1
Disk Controller : ECS VT82xxxx EIDE Controller (All VIA Chipsets)
USB Controller 1 : ECS VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (All VIA Chipsets)
USB Controller 2 : ECS VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (All VIA Chipsets)
USB Controller 3 : ECS VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (All VIA Chipsets)
USB Controller 4 : ECS VT6202/12 USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller
FireWire/1394 Controller 1 : VIA VT6306 VIA Fire II IEEE-1394 OHCI Link Layer Controller
SMBus/i2c Controller 1 : VIA VT823x SMBus

Network Services
Network Adapter : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC - Packet Scheduler Miniport (Ethernet, 100Mbps)
Network Adapter : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC #2 - Packet Scheduler Miniport

Power Management
Mains (AC) Line Status : On-Line

Operating System
Windows System : Microsoft Windows XP Home 5.01.2600 (Service Pack 2)
Platform Compliance : x86

Performance Tips
Warning 100 : Large memory sizes should be made of Registered/Buffered memory.
Tip 2546 : Large memory modules should be ECC/Parity.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.

i think only the ram is beter :S but
Maximum Memory Capacity: 2048MB
Currently Installed Memory: 512MB
Available Memory Slots: 0
Total Memory Slots: 2
Dual Channel Support: No
CPU Manufacturer: AuthenticAMD
CPU Family: AMD Athlon™ XP 2600+ Model 8, Stepping 1
CPU Speed: 2075 MHz

is crusial on my pc :S so his ram wont fit?

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keep the second one but if you can , swap the memory … :slight_smile:

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Real simple… if you can drop the memory bus speed on your motherboard to 133mhz (in the BIOS or jumpers on the board, or it might be done automatically) stick his RAM in yours.

BTW, if your motherboard actually has the memory bus speed set to 2X166… you should be using PC2700 (or better) not PC2100

But the 1gb PC3200 should be OK

You can mix Crucial branded RAM with ANY other, as long as it’s the right spec.

You may also find that some PC2100 modules are quite happy to run at 2X166 rather than their rated 2X133

At the very least, ditch both your modules, and fit his 1gb module… then after testing the system, you can add one of the 256mb modules and see how stable the system is… best idea would be to hold Shift whilst booting, then run memtest86+ to test the memory… let it run for as long as you can and see if it throws up any errors.

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cool wil giv it ago, the shift boot thing :slight_smile:

curucial said that my pc supports 2700 hisis higher than that is what i mean , or doesnt that matter :stuck_out_tongue:

going to swap case tho his is bigger and more ventalated

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You should be using PC2700 or higher, but you have PC2100 installed… that would appear to mean that either your motherboard auto adjusts the memory bus speed… or that the PC2100 modules you are using don’t mind being run at a slightly higher speed than they are rated at.

The PC3200 will normally have no problem running at lower speeds than it is rated at… so it should be fine.
(after all, it is working in your brothers, and that’s running an even slower memory bus than yours.)

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lol true, logical really lol
wel i put in test an ok!!
got the gigstick and my hyun 256 2x brand new sticks lol

now only thing left that stops tux racer lol is processor i goin to try get one somewhere
what is the maximumyou think my pc can handle? got loads of parts allover
and a 2nd hand pc shop near buy

other than that i got 1.2gig :stuck_out_tongue: thanx dudes

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Treat the following as advice only
(as ECS no longer publish a CPU list for the E22M motherboard)

According to this forum:
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/forums/index.cfm?action=showthread&threadid=250084&forumid=1&sr=1
The fastest CPU your motherboard supports is the Socket 462 (aka. Socket A) AMD Athlon XP 3000+ (barton) designed for the 333Mhz front side bus (FSB)… don’t mistake it for the 3000+ barton that is designed to be run on a 400Mhz front side bus.

So according to them, you are looking for the AMD Athlon XP 3000+ (barton) with the part number - AXDA3000DKV4D

The AMD Athlon XP 3000+ (barton) that YOU DON’T WANT has the part number - AXDA3000DKV4E

See here for a list of AMD Athlon XP CPU’s:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Athlon_XP_microprocessors

I’ve searched the ECS (Elitegroup) website, and they no longer seem to publish anything for the E22M motherboard… so it looks like you will have to rely on the forum posting from the link above (or not)… or see if you can find any further info on supported CPU’s for an ECS (Elitegroup) E22M motherboard.

2600+ ↔ 3000+
I doubt if it will make a noticable difference in performance…

But if you still want to go ahead… My advice would be to check the part number of the current 2600+ CPU and see if it ends with a
D = 333Mhz FSB
E = 400MhzFSB

But seriously… I wouldn’t bother, any performance increase will be small to unnoticeable , and you will probably have trouble finding one anyway.

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just basicly some games stil lag and tux stil wont load altho i can hear it,
wanted to make them able to play beter, how do you advice cheaply doing this? with kids im limited with cash its hard lol

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I’m surprised Supertuxkart won’t run… I’ve seen it run smoothly on a 2.0ghz P4 with 512mb RAM and a nVidia FX5500… all your hardware is supposed to be better than this… well the FX5500 had 256mb, but still…

can you post the output from

glxgears

and

gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
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laurennmarty@laurennmarty-desktop ~ $ glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
40957 frames in 5.0 seconds
35456 frames in 5.0 seconds
40456 frames in 5.0 seconds
42112 frames in 5.0 seconds
41694 frames in 5.0 seconds
39627 frames in 5.0 seconds
34972 frames in 5.0 seconds
36946 frames in 5.0 seconds
41888 frames in 5.0 seconds
3483 frames in 5.0 seconds
4932 frames in 5.0 seconds
4875 frames in 5.0 seconds
5239 frames in 5.0 seconds
16899 frames in 5.0 seconds
34806 frames in 5.0 seconds
41627 frames in 5.0 seconds
XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server “:0.0”
after 180 requests (179 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
laurennmarty@laurennmarty-desktop ~ $

half way thru i tryed to load tux to give input on that part too

and the other :

nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig

nvidia-xconfig: version 1.0 (buildmeister@builder63) Fri Aug 14 17:54:58 PDT 2009

Section “ServerLayout”
Identifier “Layout0”
Screen 0 “Screen0” 0 0
InputDevice “Keyboard0” “CoreKeyboard”
InputDevice “Mouse0” “CorePointer”
EndSection

Section “Files”
EndSection

Section “InputDevice”

# generated from default
Identifier     "Mouse0"
Driver         "mouse"
Option         "Protocol" "auto"
Option         "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"

EndSection

Section “InputDevice”

# generated from default
Identifier     "Keyboard0"
Driver         "kbd"

EndSection

Section “Monitor”
Identifier “Monitor0”
VendorName “Unknown”
ModelName “Unknown”
HorizSync 28.0 - 33.0
VertRefresh 43.0 - 72.0
Option “DPMS”
EndSection

Section “Device”
Identifier “Device0”
Driver “nvidia”
VendorName “NVIDIA Corporation”
EndSection

Section “Screen”
Identifier “Screen0”
Device “Device0”
Monitor “Monitor0”
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection “Display”
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection

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@ltid88
Have you still got the xorg.conf.new file in your home directory, we generated earlier?

And does it still contain the same as you posted here:
http://linuxforums.org.uk/general-discussion/cant-get-windows-lol-or-spotify-p/msg19242/#msg19242

@Mad Penguin (or anyone else with an nVidia card)
Is it me, or should that xorg.conf above contain:
Section “Modules”
that at the very least loads DRI ?

Also shouldn’t:
Section “Files”
contain the path to the modules, such as -
ModulePath “/usr/lib/xorg/modules”

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Erm, lots of stuff is loaded by default … here’s mine;

Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Layout0" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 Screen 1 "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0" Screen 2 "Screen2" RightOf "Screen3" Screen 3 "Screen3" RightOf "Screen1" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection

Section “ServerFlags”
Option “Xinerama” “True”
EndSection

Section “Module”
Load “glx”
EndSection

Section “InputDevice”
Identifier “Mouse0”
Driver “mouse”
Option “Protocol” “auto”
Option “Device” “/dev/psaux”
Option “Emulate3Buttons” “no”
Option “ZAxisMapping” “4 5”
EndSection

Section “InputDevice”

    # generated from default
Identifier     "Keyboard0"
Driver         "kbd"

EndSection

Section “Monitor”
Identifier “Monitor0”
VendorName “Unknown”
ModelName “BenQ FP91G+”
HorizSync 31.0 - 83.0
VertRefresh 56.0 - 76.0
Option “DPMS”
EndSection

Section “Monitor”
Identifier “Monitor3”
VendorName “Unknown”
ModelName “Samsung SyncMaster”
HorizSync 30.0 - 75.0
VertRefresh 56.0 - 61.0
EndSection

Section “Device”
Identifier “Device0”
Driver “nvidia”
VendorName “NVIDIA Corporation”
BoardName “Quadro NVS 440”
Option “NoLogo” “True”
BusID “PCI:6:0:0”
Screen 0
EndSection

Section “Device”
Identifier “Device1”
Driver “nvidia”
VendorName “NVIDIA Corporation”
BoardName “Quadro NVS 440”
Option “NoLogo” “True”
BusID “PCI:6:0:0”
Screen 1
EndSection

Section “Device”
Identifier “Device2”
Driver “nvidia”
VendorName “NVIDIA Corporation”
BoardName “Quadro NVS 440”
Option “NoLogo” “True”
BusID “PCI:7:0:0”
Screen 0
EndSection

Section “Device”
Identifier “Device3”
Driver “nvidia”
VendorName “NVIDIA Corporation”
BoardName “Quadro NVS 440”
Option “NoLogo” “True”
BusID “PCI:7:0:0”
Screen 1
EndSection

Section “Screen”
Option “UseEvents” “1”
Option “DamageEvents” “1”
Option “Coolbits” “1”
Option “TripleBuffer” “1”
Identifier “Screen0”
Device “Device0”
Monitor “Monitor0”
DefaultDepth 24
Option “TwinView” “0”
Option “TwinViewXineramaInfoOrder” “CRT-0”
Option “metamodes” “CRT-0: nvidia-auto-select +0+0”
SubSection “Display”
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section “Screen”
Option “UseEvents” “1”
Option “DamageEvents” “1”
Option “Coolbits” “1”
Option “TripleBuffer” “1”
Identifier “Screen1”
Device “Device1”
Monitor “Monitor1”
DefaultDepth 24
Option “TwinView” “0”
Option “metamodes” “CRT-1: nvidia-auto-select +0+0”
SubSection “Display”
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section “Screen”
Option “UseEvents” “1”
Option “DamageEvents” “1”
Option “Coolbits” “1”
Option “TripleBuffer” “1”
Identifier “Screen2”
Device “Device2”
Monitor “Monitor2”
DefaultDepth 24
Option “TwinView” “0”
Option “metamodes” “CRT: nvidia-auto-select +0+0”
SubSection “Display”
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section “Screen”
Option “UseEvents” “1”
Option “DamageEvents” “1”
Option “Coolbits” “1”
Option “TripleBuffer” “1”
Identifier “Screen3”
Device “Device3”
Monitor “Monitor3”
DefaultDepth 24
Option “TwinView” “0”
Option “metamodes” “DFP: nvidia-auto-select +0+0”
SubSection “Display”
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection

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yeah the only time i have ever altered anything is with you mark

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OK try this…

sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
sudo cp ~/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf

now reboot

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nothing happens lol
asked for sudo pass entered …blank and same on other and same if both together lol

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…blank and same on other and same if both together lol

Maybe I’m a bit thick, but this makes no sense to me what-so-ever … any chance of a posting in English ?? :o

“sudo” will prompt you for “your” password, then execute the command you’ve supplied with the privilege level of the “root” user.
When you type in your password, it won’t echo your keystrokes … indeed nothing will happen until you press return.

If you want to “see” the results of the “cp” command, use “cp -v …”
(i.e. add “-v” for "verbose)