Mint 17 18 19 and 20 all to be based on the 14.04 LTS ?

Clement Lefebvre (Linux Mint Project Leader), hints in a blog response that Mint 17, 18, 19, and 20 may all stick with the Ubuntu LTS as a common base.


Yeah, I read this - can’t see that it’ll happen “as is” though, as they tend to upgrade Cinnamon between releases, and over 4 releases it’s bound to need to use an upgraded GTK3 toolkit. So, they could backport GTK3 to keep up (messy!!), or hold back on Cinnamon development…

I totally understand their point though, a 9 month support period is a COMPLETE turnoff for me

I agree, that 9 month life cycle is a pain in the…

It make you not want to bother … 18 months was about right.

If you think about it, if everyone skips the non-LTS’s because of the 9 month cycle, Ubuntu would get zero testing/feedback … I think (where possible) everyone should boycott non-LTS’s or at least provide no feedback until they extend support to 18 months again. :wink:

So, this is going to be some point release every 6 months.
What about kernel, new software etc?
LMDE seems more and more appealing, at least it will be up-to date more often than the Ubuntu base.

In light of another recent comment by Clem, maybe that’s the intention … to get people to move to LMDE :wink:


Yes, I always thought that LMDE was in existence to provide an escape route from Ubuntu. It is a shame that it does not get as much effort put in as do the Ubuntu based flavours. I have only switched away from LMDE when Mint dropped the XFCE version. Luckily the original Mint developers continued to develop it in the form of SolydX(K).

I’ve played with LMDE a few times, installed it on the in-laws PC at the weekend. Biggest problem LMDE has is updates. Out of the box, you only get “update packs” from Debian, which come in a big lump every 3 months or so (kinda like a Windows Service Pack, except Windows also issued the updates individually as well). This means that you don’t get security updates, or updates of any kind (bug fixes, etc). It’s because, like on the main Ubuntu releases, Debian Testing is mirrored at a specific point, and that forms that release. The difference, is that Ubuntu constantly maintain the packages themselves throughout the life of the release, patching and backporting things. This isn’t true of LMDE - what you see is what you get following an update pack (excluding Mint software).

The only way to do it as a “running” system, is to change your sources to point directly at Debian Testing. This means you get tons of updates, at a decent risk of instability. Until Debian Testing is frozen for 6 months prior to release - then, you get jack all. It’s a bit of a security nightmare, to be honest. I’d sooner that LMDE pointed at Debian Stable, then ran some kind of backport repo of cherry-picked packages from Testing (bit of a nightmare to maintain though, and your selected packages still won’t get security patches). You can’t please all the people all the time though - as much as people bash Ubuntu, they seem to have the perfect balance between up-to-date software, and stability.