System wont boot

Hi guys

I recently installed Peppermint 5 to my wifes PC and after a small problem with video streaming everything is now good, however during the installation I forgot to copy over her .thunderbird folder I didn’t think this would be a problem as I installed Peppermint 5 on on a different drive leaving the old system intact for situations just like this, but now Peppermint 4 has suddenly decided it wont boot and it’s not showing in the list of filesystems in Peppermint 5

I’ve attached a screenshot showing the error message when trying to boot into Peppermint , There is another Linux OS installed on the same drive as Peppermint 4 and it wont boot either so I’m thinking this is a HDD problem

Any help or advice would be much appreciated

Many thanks

Graeme

Can you not mount the old install partition into P5 and then copy the .thunderbird folder accross?

Are you saying you can only attach one disk at a time ?

if you can attach both, boot peppermint 5 with the other drive also attached post the output from:

sudo fdisk -l

and

blkid

If you can only attach one at a time, I’m gonna guess the UUID’s of the partitions has changed so GRUB cannot find them … you’ll need to boot a liveCD/LiveUSB and reinstall grub

ask if unsure.

Can you not mount the old install partition into P5 and then copy the .thunderbird folder accross?

No I can’t do that the old drive is not showing in mounted volumes, There are 2 operating systems installed on that drive and none are showing and none will boot even though there showing in the GRUB menu

Are you saying you can only attach one disk at a time ?

I’m not completely sure what you mean by “attach” both drives are installed in the PC each sharing the same IDE channel (master/slave)

I’ll post the outputs here in a few minutes

pat@Linux2 ~ $ sudo fdisk -l
[sudo] password for pat:


Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders, total 312581808 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00088b4a

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *        2048   308387839   154192896   83  Linux
/dev/sda2       308389886   312580095     2095105    5  Extended
/dev/sda5       308389888   312580095     2095104   82  Linux swap / Solaris
pat@Linux2 ~ $ blkid
/dev/sda1: UUID="2be008a9-5cc7-4549-b1f2-c02c7fd8f8b4" TYPE="ext4" 
/dev/sda5: UUID="ace09511-90e3-4c31-ae14-e4c939ccff2b" TYPE="swap" 
pat@Linux2 ~ $ 

Peppermint 5 is on sda1, Peppermint 4 (the os I can’t boot) is on sdb which I cant see listed above

Graeme

Can you see the second drive in the BIOS?
If you cannot then check the cables and Master/Slave jumpers on both drives

Can you see the second drive in the BIOS?

Yes both drives are showing in the BIOS

Graeme

I’m gona guess for some reason the socond drive is getting disconnected … how is it currently attached ? USB ? or internal ?

how is it currently attached ? USB ? or internal ?

It’s connected internally (IDE) as a slave to the drive containing Peppermint 5

That is strange as I have never seen fdisk not listing all the available drives

Have you tried to boot to a LiveCD and see if fdisk can see the second drive?
One other thing. Did you by any chance clone the second drive (clone of first drive)?

Have you tried to boot to a LiveCD and see if fdisk can see the second drive?

I haven’t yet, but I’ll do that after I write this post

One other thing. Did you by any chance clone the second drive (clone of first drive)?

No I didn’t clone

before I upgraded to Peppermint 5 Peppermint 4 was working fine so in the interests of safety I added a new drive and installed Peppermint 5 on that,

I made no changes to the original drive other than add it as a slave to the new drive, after installation was completed the first thing I did was make sure Peppermint 4 booted up (which it did) that was a week ago, I’ve never attempted to access Peppermint 4 again until today when I discovered this problem

Many thanks

Graeme

OK, that makes it a lot clearer. I would still check the IDE cables.

So what happens if you remove the Peppermint 5 drive and change the Peppermint 4 drive back to master ?

Are they both IDE drives, and on the same ribbon cable ?

From a live session

peppermint@peppermint ~ $ sudo fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders, total 312581808 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00088b4a

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *        2048   308387839   154192896   83  Linux
/dev/sda2       308389886   312580095     2095105    5  Extended
/dev/sda5       308389888   312580095     2095104   82  Linux swap / Solaris

Disk /dev/sdb: 82.3 GB, 82348277760 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 10011 cylinders, total 160836480 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00043822

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1   *        2048    58518317    29258135   83  Linux
/dev/sdb2        58519550   160835583    51158017    5  Extended
/dev/sdb5       156121088   160835583     2357248   82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sdb6        58519552   156121087    48800768   83  Linux

Partition table entries are not in disk order
peppermint@peppermint ~ $ blkid
/dev/sr0: LABEL="Peppermint Five" TYPE="iso9660" 
peppermint@peppermint ~ $ 

Looks like the old drive is listed now, the other good news (at least I hope it’s good news) is I can access the Peppermint 4 drive in mounted Volumes but when I try to copy the .thunderbird folder over to the Peppermint 5 volume I’m getting permission errors

Graeme

So what happens if you remove the Peppermint 5 drive and change the Peppermint 4 drive back to master ?

I haven’t tried that but I I suppose I should have it’s just too easy to come on here to find help

Are they both IDE drives, and on the same ribbon cable ?

Yes they’re both IDE drives on the same channel Peppermint 5 is master Peppermint 4 is slave

Looks like the old drive is listed now, the other good news (at least I hope it's good news) is I can access the Peppermint 4 drive in mounted Volumes but when I try to copy the .thunderbird folder over to the Peppermint 5 volume I'm getting permission errors

Would suggest to copy the .thunderbird folder off onto a USB first from the live enviroment. Then boot to P5 and copy it back into the new install.
You may need to change the owner of the folder to the new user before first use.

OK

I removed the cable from the Peppermint 5 drive and connected it to the Peppermint 4 drive and Peppermint 4 booted no problem and I’m currently copying the .thunderbird folder to a usb thumb drive, I was unable to copy the folder over in live session due to permission errors.

So i might be wrong but it looks to me that this is some kind of drive configuration problem ie I don’t have the jumpers set right or something like that

waddayathink ?

Graeme

So i might be wrong but it looks to me that this is some kind of drive configuration problem ie I don't have the jumpers set right or something like that

Have you changed the second drive to slave and the first drive to master?

I’ve found the best way to copy off thunderbird and firefox directories is to make a tar.gz archive of them … then copy the archive off.

I’m assuming this is something to do with them both being on the same ribbon, I’ve had similar issues with IDE drives that just weren’t happy coexisting on the same cable.

try using cable select … or bunging the second drive on a separate IDE cable, maybe as master to a CDROM.

Have you changed the second drive to slave and the first drive to master?

I didn’t change any settings I only removed the ribbon cable from both drives and connected up the old drive (Peppermint4) as master leaving the new drive disconnected, so I haven’t really fixed anything but at least I’ve got the .thinderbird folder I wanted :slight_smile:

Sorry if I don’t explain things well I’m not the most eloquent person in the world :slight_smile:

Here’s something I know probably wont surprise you guys (being around computers as long as you have) it certainly didn’t surprise me, but I connected everything up the way it was and Peppermint 4 booted up no problem

Don’t you just love computers :frowning:

Sorry i wasted you time (yet again) guys

Many thanks for your help & patience :slight_smile:

Graeme