Upgrade to P5

Hi All!

A while ago I put Peppermint 4 on to a little netbook for my other half and wondered if it was worth upgrading to P5? (I have to whisper this cos any mention of touching the netbook sends her into a rage! “Don’t you dare - everything is working perfectly!” ::))

Is it a case of ‘upgrade in place’ or a complete wipe/new install? Naturally, I would back everything up first but I don’t think she has much in the way of data on it - more a case of important emails and browser bookmarks etc…

TIA

Rich

Hi Rich

I would say it is worth it Peppermint 4 is no longer supported as far as I believe Ubuntu has taken the repos down so she wouldn’t be able to install any new software etc including security updates, I was in the same dilemma as you a few weeks ago, so I installed Peppermint 5 alongside Peppermint 4 as a dual boot (which I’m glad I did as it turned out) so if you have the space it might be a good idea to do that then remove Peppermint 4 once your satisfied she’s happy,

There’s no upgrade path to Peppermint 5 (although I believe it is theoretically possible) it has to be a fresh install which personally I prefer anyway

Good luck

Graeme

It’s definitely worth doing, as Emegra says, P4 is no longer supported, so won’t receive security patches or bugfixes. From that perspective, it’s no better than Windows XP (although the other features make it more secure by design)

The good news is, it’s the last time you’ll have to have to do it for nearly 5 years, as Peppermint 5 is based on Ubuntu 14.04, which means it will receive security fixes until April 2019! :slight_smile:

Nothing to add to those 2 replies … yes it’s a good idea, because Peppermint 4 is now dead.

If you never plan on installing any new software, I suppose there’s no rush … but then again there’s no reason no to either.

If you need help copying off the web browser and email data, just ask … and mention which browser/email client we’re talking about :wink:

Ok guys, thanks for the feedback, appreciated! I’ll do a fresh install and points noted re browser and email.

(Actually - t’other half is going away for a few days soon, so I might just sneak P5 on then and keep schtum!) ;D

Rich

Sounds like a plan to me :slight_smile:

You can just copy across the email and browser hidden folders (which should keeps ALL settings) … can’t give more info than that unless you say which email client and web browser we’re talking about.

Update

I’ve downloaded P5 and created a bootable usb using UNetbootin. The MD5 checks out ok.

I’ve set the boot order on the Compaq Mini to boot from usb and it is recognised by the BIOS.

On boot, a UNetbootin screen appears with options - Default, Try P, Install P, Check Disk, Test Mem, Boot from 1st HDD.

Selecting Default or Install gives this error -

(initramfs) Can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs

which suggests it’s looking for a cdrom which this machine doesn’t have? ??? I put P4 on this comp a while ago without issue (AFAIR) so I’m a bit stumped!

Have I created the usb incorrectly or is there another step to take in the Mini’s BIOS? I’ve looked but there’s nothing obvious…

Thanks as always

Rich

Hi Rich

I’ve always found Unebootin a bit problematic, but I would select “Try Peppermint” and see if it loads into a live session and if so install from there, it that doesn’t work you can try Startup Disk creator, you’ll find it in the repos I think it’s called usb-creator-gtk I find that application works better

Good luck

Graeme

DO you still have Peppermint 4 installed ?

can you plug in the USB stick, then post the output from

sudo fdisk -l

@emegra

He’s not going to be able to install startup disk creator in Peppermint 4 … the repos are now dead

I think it’s going to be easiest to use “dd” to image the USB stick … unless of course he has access to a Windows PC ?

Wash your mouth out!!! This is a Windows free zone!! ;D

OK, place your Peppermint-5-20140623-i386.iso file on your desktop.

then run:

cd ~/Desktop

then

sudo dd if=Peppermint-5-20140623-i386.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M

be EXTREMELY careful with the syntax of that last command before running it … it does NOT want to contain “sda” anywhere in it :wink:

Also be aware that is going to completely erase anything on the USB stick, and write the contents of the iso image to it.

Once that completes … try booting from the LiveUSB stick.

Hmmm…

Firstly - the instructions above wouldn’t work on the Mini - no idea why - so I tried again on the main pc with Mint. This seemed to go ok and the files were written as expected.

Secondly - the installer crashed at the ‘who are you’ stage and now the Mini won’t boot to anything, it just sits at a blank screen with the cursor blinking… I suspect that the Grub files might have been modified?

I’ll try the usb stick again in ‘Try Peppermint’ mode and see if that reveals anything!

Rich

Boot to the Live desktop with “Try Peppermint” … then install from the “Install Peppermint” icon on the desktop.

Tell the installer to replace Peppermint 4

DO NOT select “LVM” or “Encryption”

and unless you pre-configure wireless or have a wired connection do not select install updates during the installation.

Hmmm…

Firstly - the instructions above wouldn’t work on the Mini - no idea why - so I tried again on the main pc with Mint. This seemed to go ok and the files were written as expected.

Secondly - the installer crashed at the ‘who are you’ stage and now the Mini won’t boot to anything, it just sits at a blank screen with the cursor blinking… I suspect that the Grub files might have been modified?

I’ll try the usb stick again in ‘Try Peppermint’ mode and see if that reveals anything!

Rich

EDIT: I’m getting a login screen with ‘other’ and a request for username and password! Nothing has been set yet so I can’t run it in trial mode… ???

You “shouldn’t” get prompted for username and password … but try

username = peppermint
password =

[EDIT]

Which version of Mint do you have on the main PC ?

Still nothing on the login…comes up with ‘incorrect password, please try again’. Mint 17 on the main pc

OK, let’s try creating the LiveUSB stick in Mint using startup disk creator.

First you’re going to need to format the USB stick, so install gparted in Mint:

sudo apt-get install gparted usb-creator-gtk

Now fire up GParted … ignore any messages about an incorrect file system on the USB stick … and make sure you select the USB stick in the top right drop menu.

When you’re SURE you’re working on the USB stick, select Device > Create Partition Table > msdos

When that’s done, create a single FAT32 partition on the USB stick.

Once you’ve done that … close GParted.

Fire up Startup Disk Creator … and follow the instructions (For users creating the LiveUSB stick in another version of Peppermint (or other Ubuntu based distro)) at the bottom of this posting:
http://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?topic=11987.msg96520#msg96520
ignoreing the bit about installing usb-creator-gtk and the “erase disk” option.

Hi Mark - thank you, the last set of instructions worked perfectly and P5 is now up and running!

One issue - wireless is non-existant! Clicking on the symbol brings up only ‘wired connection, disconnect,VPN connections’. I remember there was a similar problem in P4 - I think it’s to do with the Broadcom wireless card in the Compaq Mini? You gave instructions here

http://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?topic=11515.msg92488#msg92488

Would these also pertain to P5?

Thanks again

Rich

No, the lpphy firmware is now included in firmware-b43-installer … so with a cabled connection, run:

sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer

That’s great, Mark and thank you! All up and running. :wink:

I’ll let herself have a play for a few days to see if any issues arise and get back to you if needs be.

Rich